Table of contents for Live from InterACT 2008
- Live from InterACT – Ian Ayres
- Live from InterACT – New Approaches to Strategies
- Live from InterACT – Insurance in the 21st Century
- Live from InterACT – Building a Decision Engine
- Live from InterACT – Using Risk Applications to Drive Growth
- Live from InterACT – Design for People, Build for Change
- Live from InterACT – Automate, Improve and Connect
- Live from InterACT – The Mortgage Crisis
- Live from InterACT – Scoring Innovation
- Live from InterACT – Optimal Pricing
- Live from InterACT – An Enterprise Decision Engine for Originations
- Live from InterACT – Changing the game
- Live from InterACT – Closing Keynote
Interesting session on the Mortgage Crisis next, subtitled “Implications for a Global Economy”. Joe Breeden of Strategic Analytics and Daniel Melo of Fair Isaac. Joe started by saying that this is the 3rd time this has happened in the last 16 years. And, as before, it’s not just about mortgage and it’s not just about the US.
The 2007 mortgage collapse was his first topic.
- Before the event, consumer interest and loan originations were balanced (hypothetically).
- As interest rates fall, consumer demand rises both for refinancing and people looking to get into homes.
- This is good demand – the right kinds of loans – so lenders gear up to provide the loans and a new balance is reached with high demand, high supply.
- Interest rates now rise as do house prices and these “good” consumers pull back and wait. But lenders have all this capacity and continue to issue large targets. Risk takers now move in, attracted by this loan capacity, and these borrowers may not LOOK that different in terms of scores or history but they are taking a risk to be part of rising house prices. Consumers and brokers participate in this.
- The bubble bursts because it is not sustainable and the number of loans dries up but, meanwhile, lots of new loans are on the books and don’t immediately fail but eventually they do and things crash.
- Eventually demand begins to rebuild as interest rates fall and house prices fall and “good” consumers start to return. This is where we are and losses will continue to grow as these bad loans work through in the next few years but the demand/supply curve will start to balance again.
Interesting question if house price falls or interest rate changes were the biggest driver and Joe felt that the interest rate changes probably matter more as they impact everyone’s ability to pay where falling house prices tend to be balanced by both a desire not to leave one’s home and by the psychological investment people have in their house.
Joe also made the point that, while this happens periodically, securitization and other issues did make this cycle worse. Portfolio performance has a number of components:
- Vintage life cycle – each year has a delinquency curve as time passes
- Credit quality varies because scores change, consumer interest changes and product definitions change
- Management actions creates noise like bankruptcy law changes or process errors, database conversions
- Macroeconomic and competitive environment
All of these things interact in a complex way so it is hard to make assessments of how a given vintage will pan out. This leads to some patented techniques Strategic Analytics have for comparing vintages in terms of how it moves month to month relative to median curve and how origination quality varies once the economic trends have been removed. They develop what they call an “Exogenous Curve” that shows the relative impact of economic factors on a portfolio, with everything else removed.
When this approach is applied to the US mortgage industry it is clear that there was a boom in originations as interest rates fell. After this boom both delinquency and foreclosure rates tend to climb. But graphs of this are combinations of many different things and hard to use because all lenders, for instance, tend to behave similarly and compete. When the techniques he described are applied, the economy is not the major cause. However, the quality of loans is an issue and deteriorating quality shows up three times (1996,2000,now) and these correlate with lending booms. Each time there is a boom in lending it ends and then loan quality deteriorates rapidly.
He pointed out that this is not inevitable – some mortgage lenders resisted and kept the quality of their loans high. He also showed that the quality is improving rapidly after being terrible in 2006/2007 – this will not show in blended rates for a while but lenders have clearly responded. All this may be moot, however, as the broad economic trends (the recession) may overwhelm the improved quality. Losses may stay high but there is an opportunity for growth if lenders are careful about the recession.
Joe also pointed out that it is not just mortgage – auto and card are hurting too because volumes rose there too and created the same adverse selection problem that mortgage experienced. Various explanations are put forward but in the end it was about good consumers did not take out these loans.
None of this is about bad products but about the way cycles and interest rates move and how that causes adverse selection. You must make more dynamic decisions about portfolios – volume must rise and fall as the cycles go because if you keep volumes up at the wrong time then you will end up in this mess. Whenever interest rates fall then good consumers will flood in and as the environment changes, driving them out, you MUST change. Agility is critical to respond well as things change.