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	<title>Comments on: First Look &#8211; Oracle Business Rules 11g</title>
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		<title>By: James Taylor</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2009/04/15/first-look-oracle-business-rules-11g/comment-page-1/#comment-23611</link>
		<dc:creator>James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oracle Business Rules 11g installs as part of Oracle SOA Suite 11g</description>
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		<title>By: James Taylor</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2009/04/15/first-look-oracle-business-rules-11g/comment-page-1/#comment-23610</link>
		<dc:creator>James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to my friends at Oracle, Oracle Business Rules 11g installs as part of Oracle SOA Suite 11g.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to my friends at Oracle, Oracle Business Rules 11g installs as part of Oracle SOA Suite 11g.</p>
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		<title>By: Kunal Gupta</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2009/04/15/first-look-oracle-business-rules-11g/comment-page-1/#comment-23608</link>
		<dc:creator>Kunal Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I am new to Oracle.
So, I just wanted to know that “Oracle Business Rules” comes with which Edition of Oracle 11g?
Or do we have to install it explicitly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I am new to Oracle.<br />
So, I just wanted to know that “Oracle Business Rules” comes with which Edition of Oracle 11g?<br />
Or do we have to install it explicitly?</p>
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		<title>By: Kunal Gupta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kunal Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I am new to Oracle.
So, I just wanted to know that &quot;Oracle Business Rules&quot; comes with which version of Oracle 11g?
Or do we have to install it explicitly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I am new to Oracle.<br />
So, I just wanted to know that &#8220;Oracle Business Rules&#8221; comes with which version of Oracle 11g?<br />
Or do we have to install it explicitly?</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel DeFreitas</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2009/04/15/first-look-oracle-business-rules-11g/comment-page-1/#comment-21549</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel DeFreitas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post as usual James.

What about support fo C#.NET/Oracle shops - do you think it&#039;s better for them to go with iLog (rules as native .net assemblies), vs. having to staff up on on the J2 side to reap the benefits of the Oracle solution stack?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post as usual James.</p>
<p>What about support fo C#.NET/Oracle shops &#8211; do you think it&#8217;s better for them to go with iLog (rules as native .net assemblies), vs. having to staff up on on the J2 side to reap the benefits of the Oracle solution stack?</p>
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		<title>By: stanley</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2009/04/15/first-look-oracle-business-rules-11g/comment-page-1/#comment-21543</link>
		<dc:creator>stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can i get a comprehensive explanation on what oracle 11g is all about and its uses in industries such as  banks, oil firm,govt parastatals. thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can i get a comprehensive explanation on what oracle 11g is all about and its uses in industries such as  banks, oil firm,govt parastatals. thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: James Taylor</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2009/04/15/first-look-oracle-business-rules-11g/comment-page-1/#comment-18586</link>
		<dc:creator>James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David
Don&#039;t disagree with you on the needs for improvement but, as you say, it is showing steady improvement. As far as I can tell it is the 11g rules product that is going forward as a general purpose rules platform - Ruleburst is focused on the government sector as an application engine while Haley has vanished into the CRM platform. Hopefully we will see more from Oracle in this space.
JT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David<br />
Don&#8217;t disagree with you on the needs for improvement but, as you say, it is showing steady improvement. As far as I can tell it is the 11g rules product that is going forward as a general purpose rules platform &#8211; Ruleburst is focused on the government sector as an application engine while Haley has vanished into the CRM platform. Hopefully we will see more from Oracle in this space.<br />
JT</p>
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		<title>By: David Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2009/04/15/first-look-oracle-business-rules-11g/comment-page-1/#comment-18509</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a bit of an improvement over 10g, but here is my list of improvements they can make

This is my wishlist:
rule flow editor: I now have to jiggle with priorities to control my order of execution, that becomes a disaster with a large ruleset.
rule management capabilities: currently they removed (the dreadful Rule Author), but its replacement SOA composer is still a long way out and its not in the PS1 preview description
regression testing and simulation: I have to code the test test in Java? A simple point and click interface would be nice.
Out of the box reports: I have to use Java to create simple reports?
Documentation and metadata properties: There&#039;s no way to provide descriptive information to my rules.
Rule repository and versioning: non-existent, I can&#039;t run rules against older rulesets and I can&#039;t see who changed what and when.

Oracle has 3 rules engines (Hayley, Ruleburst &amp; BPM BRE) and neither of them is a serious player, who is else is left that they can buy as they obviously have problems creating their own one.</description>
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<p>This is my wishlist:<br />
rule flow editor: I now have to jiggle with priorities to control my order of execution, that becomes a disaster with a large ruleset.<br />
rule management capabilities: currently they removed (the dreadful Rule Author), but its replacement SOA composer is still a long way out and its not in the PS1 preview description<br />
regression testing and simulation: I have to code the test test in Java? A simple point and click interface would be nice.<br />
Out of the box reports: I have to use Java to create simple reports?<br />
Documentation and metadata properties: There&#8217;s no way to provide descriptive information to my rules.<br />
Rule repository and versioning: non-existent, I can&#8217;t run rules against older rulesets and I can&#8217;t see who changed what and when.</p>
<p>Oracle has 3 rules engines (Hayley, Ruleburst &amp; BPM BRE) and neither of them is a serious player, who is else is left that they can buy as they obviously have problems creating their own one.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Confluence: Application Platforms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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