Comments on: The small impact of business rules on the big players http://jtonedm.com/2008/11/21/the-small-impact-of-business-rules-on-the-big-players/ James Taylor on Everything Decision Management Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:10:43 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Paul Vincent http://jtonedm.com/2008/11/21/the-small-impact-of-business-rules-on-the-big-players/comment-page-1/#comment-11646 Paul Vincent Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:37:19 +0000 http://jtonedm.com/?p=652#comment-11646 <em>"The issue of interchange standards for rules will start to become paramount" </em>Very true. James has blogged on rule standards before - the interchange work is being done as W3C RIF and rule modeling as OMG PRR.<em> [Disclosure: rule engine vendors like us are involved in both efforts].</em> “The issue of interchange standards for rules will start to become paramount”

Very true. James has blogged on rule standards before – the interchange work is being done as W3C RIF and rule modeling as OMG PRR.

[Disclosure: rule engine vendors like us are involved in both efforts].

]]> By: Mannes Neuer http://jtonedm.com/2008/11/21/the-small-impact-of-business-rules-on-the-big-players/comment-page-1/#comment-11620 Mannes Neuer Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:26:11 +0000 http://jtonedm.com/?p=652#comment-11620 The evolution of rules platforms from discrete, service-based utility software to assume a more pervasive role in the enterprise is only good news for the clients of IBM, Oracle, SAP and others. The issue of interchange standards for rules will start to become paramount as organizations will want to mine rules from legacy applications and retool them into a modernized enterprise architecture in a consistent and reliable fashion. The evolution of rules platforms from discrete, service-based utility software to assume a more pervasive role in the enterprise is only good news for the clients of IBM, Oracle, SAP and others. The issue of interchange standards for rules will start to become paramount as organizations will want to mine rules from legacy applications and retool them into a modernized enterprise architecture in a consistent and reliable fashion.

]]> By: Bhupendra http://jtonedm.com/2008/11/21/the-small-impact-of-business-rules-on-the-big-players/comment-page-1/#comment-11604 Bhupendra Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:04:03 +0000 http://jtonedm.com/?p=652#comment-11604 This is a great news. And its all good for Analytics Industry. With the entry of these biggies, certainly the competition will increase and take industry to one level up. I got chance to use Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services and SQL Server Analytics Services few weeks back. Its really exciting on how they are coming up. Whole of the reporting can be done now, and MS is moving up the value chain with predictive models and rules (insider said). IBM, Infosys, Wipro, TCS, Accenture etc. all have BI and Analytics Team now. And they are focusing on productizing them very soon. Business Rules Technology will be a big component of their product. This is sure to give a tough time for established EDM companies like Fair ISaac. Interesting post. Thank you. -- Bhupendra This is a great news. And its all good for Analytics Industry. With the entry of these biggies, certainly the competition will increase and take industry to one level up.
I got chance to use Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services and SQL Server Analytics Services few weeks back. Its really exciting on how they are coming up. Whole of the reporting can be done now, and MS is moving up the value chain with predictive models and rules (insider said).

IBM, Infosys, Wipro, TCS, Accenture etc. all have BI and Analytics Team now. And they are focusing on productizing them very soon. Business Rules Technology will be a big component of their product. This is sure to give a tough time for established EDM companies like Fair ISaac.

Interesting post. Thank you.

– Bhupendra

]]> By: Paul Vincent http://jtonedm.com/2008/11/21/the-small-impact-of-business-rules-on-the-big-players/comment-page-1/#comment-11593 Paul Vincent Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:17:42 +0000 http://jtonedm.com/?p=652#comment-11593 I had to smile at this as it sounds like the same story for these vendors' CEP offerings: SAP - Yasu roadmap suggests interest in the business events direction, although they have already done research using a different rule engine. IBM - Acquired Aptsoft for their business-CEP offering, but have at least 2 other CEP tools (not including anything Ilog-based that might come out). Oracle - Acquired, and is promoting, BEA's CEP tool - itself based on an open source CEP offering; but already had some home-grown tooling and could well acquire one of the smaller vendors in this space Microsoft - not playing so far, but there is at least one .NET CEP tool that might get itself acquired. As you said - we live in interesting times! [Disclosure: we at TIBCO consider a common platform for event-driven business rules *and* CEP to be the best approach...] Cheers I had to smile at this as it sounds like the same story for these vendors’ CEP offerings:
SAP – Yasu roadmap suggests interest in the business events direction, although they have already done research using a different rule engine.
IBM – Acquired Aptsoft for their business-CEP offering, but have at least 2 other CEP tools (not including anything Ilog-based that might come out).
Oracle – Acquired, and is promoting, BEA’s CEP tool – itself based on an open source CEP offering; but already had some home-grown tooling and could well acquire one of the smaller vendors in this space
Microsoft – not playing so far, but there is at least one .NET CEP tool that might get itself acquired.

As you said – we live in interesting times!

[Disclosure: we at TIBCO consider a common platform for event-driven business rules *and* CEP to be the best approach...]

Cheers

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