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	<title>Comments on: Here&#8217;s why to use decision management not just process management</title>
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	<description>James Taylor on Everything Decision Management</description>
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		<title>By: Interesting article on Process Management and Decision Management &#187; Smart (Enough Systems, the blog)</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2008/06/30/heres-why-to-use-decision-management-not-just-process-management/comment-page-1/#comment-10598</link>
		<dc:creator>Interesting article on Process Management and Decision Management &#187; Smart (Enough Systems, the blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BPM, BDM and SOA. It&#8217;s worth a read as it makes some good points about the intersection of BPM and decision management - whether Business Decision Management or Enterprise Decision [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BPM, BDM and SOA. It&#8217;s worth a read as it makes some good points about the intersection of BPM and decision management &#8211; whether Business Decision Management or Enterprise Decision [...]</p>
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		<title>By: marwane</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2008/06/30/heres-why-to-use-decision-management-not-just-process-management/comment-page-1/#comment-10508</link>
		<dc:creator>marwane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now to another comment which is not directly related to your post. About EDM, BRM and BPM, my personal point of view is that BRM and BPI (process intelligence) techniques such as process mining, performance management etc... are the link between EDM and BPM. The first are the techniques and the latter is the discipline which is needed to be used in order to achieve efficient governance of the process-driven enterprise. I guess we should really go further now that still motivating the need for well-though methodologies for efficient use of BRM and BPM together, and actually profit from experience and come up with concrete methodologies. Of course, this is easier said than done, but I am convinced that the community should now move to the next step. You have a nice feature here that I also use for my blog which is the wiki, and I would propose we gather the points you made in the post with those made in the post by Kai-Uwe on the ARIS blog and use it as the start of a kind of a micro-knowledge base on BPM+BRM. What do you think? :D
Regards, Marwane
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now to another comment which is not directly related to your post. About EDM, BRM and BPM, my personal point of view is that BRM and BPI (process intelligence) techniques such as process mining, performance management etc&#8230; are the link between EDM and BPM. The first are the techniques and the latter is the discipline which is needed to be used in order to achieve efficient governance of the process-driven enterprise. I guess we should really go further now that still motivating the need for well-though methodologies for efficient use of BRM and BPM together, and actually profit from experience and come up with concrete methodologies. Of course, this is easier said than done, but I am convinced that the community should now move to the next step. You have a nice feature here that I also use for my blog which is the wiki, and I would propose we gather the points you made in the post with those made in the post by Kai-Uwe on the ARIS blog and use it as the start of a kind of a micro-knowledge base on BPM+BRM. What do you think? <img src='http://jtonedm.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Regards, Marwane<br />
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		<title>By: marwane</title>
		<link>http://jtonedm.com/2008/06/30/heres-why-to-use-decision-management-not-just-process-management/comment-page-1/#comment-10507</link>
		<dc:creator>marwane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James, I couldn&#039;t add a trackback so I just linked my answer to your post (which was initially a small comment but grew into a real post). Please checkit on: http://marwaninaltum.blogspot.com/2008/07/reaction-on-edmbpm.html
  
Marwane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James, I couldn&#8217;t add a trackback so I just linked my answer to your post (which was initially a small comment but grew into a real post). Please checkit on: <a href="http://marwaninaltum.blogspot.com/2008/07/reaction-on-edmbpm.html">http://marwaninaltum.blogspot.com/2008/07/reaction-on-edmbpm.html</a><br />
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Marwane</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Browne - People and Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Browne - People and Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post - to add (or repeat!) what you&#039;re saying, there are two main areas where intoducing rules can help your workflow
- to automate manual decisions, in a key that those business decision makers can still understand what is going on.
- to replace existing automation - moving it from Spaghetti code to a set of rules that can be easily understood by business people.
Both add value, and both often have the advantage of capturing and documenting previously informal processes.
Paul
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post &#8211; to add (or repeat!) what you&#8217;re saying, there are two main areas where intoducing rules can help your workflow<br />
- to automate manual decisions, in a key that those business decision makers can still understand what is going on.<br />
- to replace existing automation &#8211; moving it from Spaghetti code to a set of rules that can be easily understood by business people.<br />
Both add value, and both often have the advantage of capturing and documenting previously informal processes.<br />
Paul<br />
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